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THE TRANSMISSION GALLERY
THE "HIT LIST"
The lists and map below show UHF, VHF and MF broadcast stations, ordered by geographical location, which are not presently represented in the gallery (shown in black and red), and also stations that have been identified as requiring updated photographs (shown in purple)
Ongoing upgrade work to networks such as DAB mean that new sites are coming online regularly, and existing sites are having new equipment and antennas installed. There are also a small number of extant sites that nobody has ever managed to get to, or that were modified a while ago, but again, nobody has got to recently.
We are also looking for older, vintage photos of sites so if you have any older snaps please don't be shy - send them in! We can accept photos in any format - scanned image files, prints, transparencies or negatives - and will always return any originals to you after scanning. If we are able to restore or enhance your old photos we can also send you high res image files of the new versions.
See this page for details about how to submit your photos.
Challenge Sites
There are a number of sites that may present quite a challenge to document. This may be because there may be limited information on them, they are difficult to locate, or they may even no longer be in existence. These sites are marked red on the map below and are listed separately at the bottom of the page. This group could include sites of any type, but the majority are pre-DSO self helps. These self helps may also have incorrect NGRs. All these self helps have been looked into, and a best guess has been made as to the most likely NGR. In a few cases it's obvious that the relay is on a building, such as a football stand, and those should be accurate for the relay itself. Otherwise some local detective work may be required, although please bear in mind that if decommissioned then it may have been entirely removed. Any information about these would be gratefully received to . Note that this does not apply to any relays marked "Digital Self-Help" as exact location information is available and is shown below.
For more information, take a look at our useful guide here
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Legend:
Unphotographed sites
Sites photographed but not yet published
Updated photographs required for this site
Challenge sites
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For Update sites then click on site name in balloon to go to site's gallery page
Order lists by Station Name | Order lists by National Grid Ref
| Station | Location | Services | NGR |
| Seefin Hill | Maghera | Q Radio: 106.3 | C817027 |
| Drumeeny | Q Radio: 97.6 | D125398 | |
| Tully Quarry | Co. Antrim | BBC National: 12B | D163004 |
| Coles Hill | Fermanagh | Q Radio: 102.1 | H225438 |
| Armagh (City Hotel) | County Armagh | Q Radio: 107.6 | H878448 |
| Haroldswick | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HP643134 | |
| Eshares | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HU206785 | |
| Walls Marina | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HU243492 | |
| Brea Marina | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HU351678 | |
| Sumburgh Head Nature Reserve | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HU407079 | |
| Bressay & Noss Nature Reserve | 60 North FM: 87.7 | HU489376 | |
| Newry Golf Club | Co. Armagh | IUR fm: 101.4 | J077238 |
| RAF Aldergrove | Aldergrove and Antrim FM: 106.5 | J154797 | |
| BFBS Lisburn | Co. Antrim | BFBS: 100.6 | J263659 |
| Tullybrannigan Road | County Down | Q Radio: 101.1 | J359318 |
| Holywood (Palace Barracks) | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 104.4 | J392777 | |
| Gransha | Antrim | Q Radio: 107.6 | J480971 |
| Shieldaig | Radio Wester Ross: 101.8 | NG821536 | |
| Scatwell (digital self-help) | Highland | BBC B: 24 D3&4: 23 BBC A: 21 SDN: 26 Arq A: 27 Arq B: 29 | NH411553 |
| Inverness (Fort George) | BFBS: 87.7 | NH763567 | |
| Banff (Coast Guard) | Deveron FM: 107.4 | NJ687645 | |
| Glenfinnan (digital self-help) | Highland | BBC A: 46 D3&4: 43 BBC B: 50 | NM918808 |
| Clachaig (digital self-help) | BBC A: 49 D3&4: 54 BBC B: 58 | NN131570 | |
| Dundee (Ninewells Hospital) | Bridge FM: 87.7 | NO390303 | |
| Forfar (Whitehills Health Centre) | Radio North Angus: 87.7 | NO467514 | |
| Carnoustie High School | Radio North Angus: 107.5 | NO554351 | |
| Brechin (High School) | Radio North Angus: 87.7 MHz | NO589360 | |
| Irvine (Cunninghame House) | Irvine Beat FM: 107.2 | NS317388 | |
| Kilsyth (Corrie Farm) | Home Radio: 100.8 | NS690791 | |
| Edinburgh NATS site (Corstorphine Hill) | Edinburgh small-scale: 9B | NT206738 | |
| Glencorse Barracks | BFBS: 94.0 | NT246623 | |
| Edinburgh Castle | Edinburgh: 12D | NT251735 | |
| Newtongrange (Newbattle CLC) | Black Diamond FM: 107.8 | NT337649 | |
| New Luce (digital self-help) | BBC A: 44 D3&4: 41 BBC B: 47 | NX162642 | |
| Kentmere B (digital self-help) | Cumbria | BBC A: 39 D3&4: 42 BBC B: 45 | NY468053 |
| Penrith (Newton Rigg) | Eden FM: 107.5 | NY493311 | |
| Crosby Garrett (digital self-help) | D3&4: 28 BBC A: 25 BBC B: 30 SDN: 23 Arq A: 26 Arq B: 29 | NY726096 | |
| Ballasaig | Energy FM: 105.2 | SC472908 | |
| Lancaster University | Bailrigg FM: 95.3 | SD486572 | |
| Carnforth | Beyond Radio: 107.5 | SD502707 | |
| Ingleton | Dales Radio: 103.0 | SD693724 | |
| Giggleswick | Dales Radio: 104.9 | SD802644 | |
| Sutton in Craven (Valley Farm) | Drystone Radio: 103.5 | SE013434 | |
| Bradford (St. Barnabas Church) | West Yorkshire | Bradford Asian Radio: 1413 kHz | SE143356 |
| Catterick Garrison | BFBS: 106.9 | SE180984 | |
| Vimy Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1134 kHz | SE184964 | |
| Thorne (Bridge Street) | TMCR: 95.3 | SE689131 | |
| Malton | North Yorkshire | Coast and County Radio: 106.7 | SE75537110 |
| Gwalchmai | MonFM: 102.1 | SH389767 | |
| Porthmadog (digital self-help) | Gwynedd | BBC A: 53 D3&4: 57 BBC B: 60 | SH562383 |
| Wrexham (Ty Pawb) | Calon FM: 105.0 Wrexham: 9B | SJ337504 | |
| Beaconside Stafford | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1278 kHz | SJ939242 | |
| Ashbourne (Blenheim Road) | Derbyshire | Greatest Hits Radio: 96.7 | SK190456 |
| Coalville Community Hospital | Carillon Radio: 1431 kHz | SK439141 | |
| Ilkeston Market Place | Erewash Sound: 96.8 | SK464416 | |
| Sutton in Ashfield (Sutton Community Academy) | Takeover Radio: 106.9 | SK495587 | |
| Annesley (Acacia Centre) | Acacia Radio: 1287 kHz | SK504538 | |
| Newark (St. Mary Magdalene Church) | Radio Newark: 107.8 | SK799539 | |
| Bronglais Hospital | Radio Bronglais: 87.8 | SN592818 | |
| Cwmere (digital self-help) | BBC A: 60 D3&4: 53 BBC B: 57 SDN: 54 Arq A: 58 Arq B: 49 | SN678878 | |
| Brecon Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | SO045285 | |
| Pandy Caravan Club (digital self-help) | BBC B: 21 D3&4: 27 BBC A: 24 | SO334225 | |
| Imjin Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | SO863213 | |
| Blakenhall Business Park (Wolverhampton) | Gulshan Radio: 106.9 | SO910970 | |
| Walsall Townend House | Ambur Radio: 99.4 | SP011987 | |
| Solihull (Wharf Lane) | West Midlands | South Birmingham small-scale: 9C | SP154809 |
| Carterton (RAF Brize Norton) | Oxfordshire | BFBS: 106.1 | SP287064 |
| University of Warwick | RaW 1251 AM: 1251 kHz | SP299758 | |
| Chipping Norton | Witney Radio: 107.4 | SP314266 | |
| Witney West (Witney Business Centre) | Witney Radio: 99.9 | SP334104 | |
| Nuneaton (George Eliot Hospital) | Warwickshire | Anker Radio: 1386 kHz | SP358905 |
| Stonesfield Sports and Social Club | Oxfordshire | Witney Radio: 90.2 | SP395175 |
| Bramcote Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1134 kHz | SP408885 | |
| Hinckley | Fosse 107: 107.9 | SP427944 | |
| Eynsham | Witney Radio: 105.3 | SP430094 | |
| Rugby (Art Gallery) | Warwickshire | Capital FM: 107.1 | SP501750 |
| Haddenham (Garden Centre) | Red Kite Radio: 107.2 | SP749084 | |
| Northampton (Moulton Park) | Northamptonshire | Embrace: 104.7 Inspiration FM: 107.8 Revolution Radio: 96.1 Northampton: 7D | SP76796456 |
| Stoke Mandeville Hospital | Stoke Mandeville Hospital Radio: 87.7 | SP829117 | |
| Milton Keynes Saxon Gate (Civic Offices) | MKFM: 106.3 1055 The Point: 105.5 | SP850390 | |
| Leighton Buzzard (Page's Park Station) | Bedfordshire | Milton Keynes: 9B | SP928242 |
| Ilfracombe Holiday Park | Devon | The Voice: 107.8 | SS523468 |
| Mynydd-bach-y-glo | Radio City Swansea: 1386 kHz | SS615957 | |
| Barry (Awberry House) | Bro Radio: 98.1 | ST109686 | |
| Cardiff (Nelson House) | Radio Cardiff: 98.7 | ST187752 | |
| Taunton (Musgrove Park Hospital) | Apple FM: 97.3 | ST215242 | |
| Taunton (Market House) | Tone FM: 107.8 | ST227244 | |
| Glastonbury Community Hall (Chinnock Rd) | Glastonbury FM: 107.1 | ST506392 | |
| Keynsham (Burnett Business Park) | Somerset | KTCRfm: 105.8 East Bristol and Keynsham: 9B | ST668660 |
| Warminster (BFBS Community Centre) | Wiltshire | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | ST885455 |
| Buckley Barracks | Wiltshire | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | ST912813 |
| Blandford Garrison | BFBS: 89.3 | ST917079 | |
| Devizes | Fantasy Radio: 97.0 | SU004615 | |
| Tidworth (Beech Hill Road) | Wiltshire | Castledown Radio: 107.6 | SU241491 |
| Swinton Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1278 kHz | SU256489 | |
| Faringdon Leisure Centre | Oxfordshire | Witney Radio: 107.1 | SU285944 |
| Thames Valley University | Berkshire | SU737726 | |
| Sandhurst | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1134 kHz | SU832615 | |
| Cressex Business Park | Wycombe Sound: 106.6 | SU851926 | |
| Farnborough | Radio BGWS: 1179 kHz | SU861573 | |
| St. Richard's Hospital | W Sussex | CHR 1431 AM: 1431 kHz | SU867059 |
| Farnborough (Meads Shopping Centre) | Glow Radio: 106.5 | SU869555 | |
| Aldershot Garrison (St. Omer Barracks) | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1278 kHz | SU878520 | |
| Hindhead (replacement site) | Surrey | Greatest Hits Radio: 101.6 | SU889358 |
| Woking (Winston Churchill School) | Woking local: 8A | SU975580 | |
| Slough (Queensmere Centre) | Asian Star: 101.6 | SU979798 | |
| University of Surrey | Stag Radio: 1350 kHz | SU986502 | |
| Land's End Radio Station | Cornwall | Coast FM: 97.2 | SW379308 |
| Derriford Hospital | Hospital Radio Plymouth: 87.7 | SX499595 | |
| Dartington (Higher Close) | Soundart Radio: 102.5 | SX780628 | |
| Aylesbeare | Devon | DevonAir Radio: 94.6 | SY0478905 |
| Sidmouth Golf Course | Devon | DevonAir Radio: 95.0 | SY114872 |
| Bovington Camp VHF | Dorset | BFBS: 100.8 | SY831889 |
| Bovington Camp MF | Dorset | BFBS: 1287 kHz | SY832891 |
| Oliver's Mount B | Coast and County Radio: 97.4 Radio Scarborough: 107.6 | TA039869 | |
| Colney Training Centre | Livewire Radio: 1350 kHz | TG172066 | |
| Letchworth (Briar Patch Lane) | Heart FM: 106.9 | TL209313 | |
| Chelmsford (Soax House) | Chelmsford Community Radio: 104.4 | TL706069 | |
| Maldon (Blue Boar Hotel) | Caroline Coastal FM: 94.7 | TL848070 | |
| Bury St Edmunds (West Suffolk Hospital) | RWS FM 103.3: 103.3 | TL850627 | |
| Colchester Garrison | BFBS: 107.0 | TL990241 | |
| Notting Hill Gate | London local: 9B | TQ251804 | |
| East Surrey Hospital | Radio Redhill: 1431 kHz | TQ285482 | |
| Highgate - Cholmeley Lodge | LGR: 103.3 | TQ286873 | |
| Stratford (Henniker Point) | Nu Sound: 92.0 | TQ391852 | |
| Forest Gate (Mosque) | Revive FM: 94.0 | TQ405849 | |
| Hailsham (George Street) | East Sussex | Hailsham FM: 95.9 | TQ590094 |
| Brentwood (Gibraltar House) | Phoenix FM: 98.0 | TQ592917 | |
| Barleylands Craft Village | Moonbeamers Drive-In: 106.8 | TQ695919 | |
| Brompton Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | TQ763689 | |
| Sir John Moore Barracks | BFBS Gurkha Radio: 1287 kHz | TR194355 |
Sites remaining: 131
Order lists by Station Name | Order lists by National Grid Ref
| Station | Location | Update Reason | NGR |
| Muldonagh | Co. Londonderry | Receive is now twin yagis. | C599100 |
| Ballycastle Forest | Co. Antrim | New BBC DAB installation, antenna 35 m agl. UHF trough likely to have been replaced due to B700 at Limavady | D118397 |
| Cushendun | Co. Antrim | Receive changed to 4 Yagis | D255349 |
| Gortnalee | Co. Fermanagh | Detailed photos needed | G955554 |
| Strabane | Co. Tyrone | DAB aerial modified May 2016 to alter pattern. UHF RBL now Londonderry | H393947 |
| Glenelly Valley | Replacement structure installed 2024 | H576913 | |
| Armagh | Co. Armagh | Detail : DAB tx antenna | H891446 |
| Scalloway | Shetland | DAB aerial added, new UHF panels in preparation for B700 clearance | HU398397 |
| Pierowall | Orkney | New receive panel aerial | HY447497 |
| Camlough | Co. Armagh | DAB facility added | J055247 |
| Newry North | Co. Armagh | Transmit panels replaced for B700 | J090284 |
| Banbridge (Thornhill) | DAB added | J117448 | |
| Killowen Mountain | Co. Down | Photos on a clear day would be good, inc. new mast | J207174 |
| Ness Of Lewis | Outer Hebrides | Detail : tv & FM tx antennas | NB533603 |
| Ben Tongue | Highland | Detailed photos needed | NC604588 |
| Bruernish | Outer Hebrides | Tx aerial replaced August 2020. | NF719023 |
| Daliburgh | Outer Hebrides | UHF transmit antenna replaced August 2017 for B700 | NF736216 |
| Skriaig | Isle of Skye | Replacement 8 lambda UHF aerial on main tower. | NG451408 |
| Fodderty | Highland | Detail : tv rx antenna | NH512606 |
| Balblair Wood | Highland | Detail, especially of RBL aerials; replacment B700 tx aerial March 2018. | NH593952 |
| Peterhead | Aberdeenshire | Transmit cylinder replaced May 2018 | NK111452 |
| Kilmelford | Argyll and Bute | Replacement UHF aerial in preparation for B700 clearance; July 2017 | NM818101 |
| Loch Feochan | Argyll and Bute | Transmit aerial likely to have been replaced for B700 | NM861256 |
| Morrone | Detailed photos needed | NO132886 | |
| Port Ellen | Argyll and Bute | BBC DAB installation | NR338452 |
| Clachan | Argyll and Bute | Pictures of the new transmit aerial on the new pole | NR766563 |
| Bellanoch | Argyll and Bute | Detail : antennas on new tower | NR803919 |
| Tighnabruaich | Argyll and Bute | Detailed photos needed | NR993745 |
| Rothesay Town UHF | Argyll & Bute | Transmit aerial likely to have been replaced for B700 | NS082648 |
| Lochgoilhead AD | Argyll and Bute | Detailed photos needed | NS190977 |
| Uplawmoor | East Renfrewshire | Detailed photos needed | NS437563 |
| Braid Hills | Midlothian | SS DAB service added summer 2022 at 33 m agl. | NT250694 |
| Bonchester Bridge | Borders | Receive aerial now twin Yagis | NT589114 |
| Kimmeragh | Isle of Man | UHF tx aerial replaced (with RFS 4UD) late August 2015. | NX450000 |
| Broughton Moor | Cumbria | New BBC DAB installation | NY058330 |
| Wall | Northumberland | Detail : tv rx antenna | NY909676 |
| Richmond (Mercury Road) | North Yorkshire | Swapped antenna to single lindenblad, increased antenna height by 6m. | NZ163018 |
| Royal Victoria Hospital | Tyneside | Service now on FM, new aerial just visible from Hospital Entrance on Richardson Rd, on the roof. | NZ242652 |
| Nunthorpe | SSDAB aerial has been moved to a new position. | NZ542161 | |
| Douglas (Carnane) | Isle of Man | Detail : DSO changes | SC373746 |
| Ramsey VHF (Energy FM) | Isle of Man | Detail : FM rx antenna | SC449945 |
| Ramsey VHF (3FM) | Isle of Man | Detail : FM rx antenna | SC449947 |
| Lancaster (Ashton Memorial) | Updated to two transmit arrays, each consisting of a vertical dipole and a horizontal yagi, on the balcony of the tower just below the level of the round windows. | SD488613 | |
| Abbeystead (self-help) | More detailed photos needed of the replacement of the UHF tx aerial for B700. | SD568543 | |
| Chorley Whitehouse Farm | DAB added | SD605174 | |
| Sedbergh | Cumbria | Trough Rx aerials likely to have been replaced for B700 | SD607879 |
| Chaigley | Lancashire | DSO: VSAT dish and new enclosure | SD686446 |
| Bolton - Dove Mill | DAB added | SD695077 | |
| Blackburn (Hospital) | Lancashire | DAB added | SD696267 |
| Dentdale | Cumbria | Wooden pole replaced with metal tower, June 2019. | SD727854 |
| Chatburn | Lancashire | DSO: VSAT dish added | SD765445 |
| Austwick | Lancashire | Receive logs replaced with Yagis | SD783672 |
| Cragg Vale | West Yorkshire | TRansmit aerial likely to have been replaced for B700 | SE003229 |
| Idle | West Yorkshire | The small UHF cylinder at the very top now removed | SE163374 |
| Leeds (Potternewton Heights) | West Yorkshire | Local DAB minimux added October 2022 | SE302366 |
| York Hospital | York SSDAB added | SE602531 | |
| Amlwch Nebo | Anglesey | Community Radio station MonFM added. Aerial at 28m | SH471906 |
| Betws-y-Coed | Conwy | UHF Rx aerials replaced for B700, May 2018. | SH825582 |
| St. John's Beacon | Merseyside | Liverpool SSDAB aerial | SJ348903 |
| Warrington (Fairclough Mill) | Cheshire | Addition of local DAB | SJ595879 |
| Stockport (Ratcliffe Towers) | Greater Manchester | Addition of local DAB | SJ897898 |
| Biddulph Moor (Rails Farm) | Staffordshire | SSDAB tx added March 2023. | SJ915585 |
| Sutton Common | Cheshire | Cheshire East DAB Tx aerial at 60m | SJ933676 |
| Whaley Bridge (Hawkhurst Farm) | DAB added | SK002814 | |
| Ladder Hill | Derbyshire | UHF trough receive aerial likely to have been replaced for B700 | SK027789 |
| Loughborough University | Leicestershire | DAB added | SK524190 |
| Haverfordwest | Pembrokeshire | Replacement UHF tx aerials for B700 clearance April 2018 | SN029262 |
| Carno | Powys | Rx aerial; access may be difficult | SN950961 |
| Chalford | Gloucestershire | UHF receive trough replaced for B700, July 2018 | SO883017 |
| St. Michaels Brierley Hill | West Midlands | Local DAB minimux added Nov 2022 | SO916868 |
| Cheltenham (Eagle Tower) | Gloucestershire | Detailed photos needed | SO948217 |
| Birmingham (Metropolitan House) | West Midlands | SSDAB added, likely to be separate aerial to existing DAB. | SP055862 |
| Birmingham (Barry Jackson Tower) | West Midlands | Local DAB added summer 2022 | SP076892 |
| Coventry (William Bachelor House) | Local SSDAB added. | SP334796 | |
| Brill | Buckinghamshire | Pictures of the FM installation required | SP655138 |
| Little Oxendon Farm | Northamptonshire | Tx aerial modified, one tier removed. | SP727840 |
| Ilfracombe | Devon | Probable replacement of UHF tx aerial in preparation for B700 May 2019 | SS507465 |
| Barnstaple (North Devon College) | Devon | Which is the student station's aerial? A closeup of the right one, please. | SS552324 |
| Bampton | Devon | DAB added, tx aerial above UHF. | SS966237 |
| Pontyllanfriath | Caerphilly | Separate aerial at 45m on 'B' tower added for Newport & Chepstow DAB | ST204933 |
| Celtic Manor (digital self-help) | Gwent | Detailed photos needed | ST355897 |
| Fry's Hill | Somerset | New ILR 2021, replacing service transmitted up to 2016. | ST436557 |
| Camp Hill | Wiltshire | Addition of local DAB mux March 2022. | SU112337 |
| Swindon (Brunel Tower) | Wiltshire | DAB added | SU149847 |
| Bulford Camp | Wiltshire | Addition of mini DAB service March 2022. | SU195429 |
| Crabwood Farm B | Hampshire | Photos of Band II antennas & clarify which is the B tower | SU448296 |
| Crabwood Farm C | Hampshire | Photos of new DAB antennas on C Tower for BBC and local mux | SU450295 |
| Broad Street Mall / Reading (Fountain House) | Berkshire | New ILR 2021, probably separate tx antenna to existing. | SU713733 |
| Egham (Royal Holloway College) | Detailed photos needed. | SU998707 | |
| Praa Sands | Cornwall | Detailed photos needed | SW572284 |
| Helston | Cornwall | Detail: new DAB tx antenna | SW651275 |
| Truro | Cornwall | UHF Tx aerial replaced August 2018. | SW835442 |
| Torquay Town | Devon | ILR added (on the Waldon Point building) | SX915637 |
| Dawlish | Devon | Transmit aerial replaced for B700 | SX950772 |
| Ladram Bay (digital self-help) | Devon | Does anyone have access to photo internal equipment changes for DSO? | SY093853 |
| Nine Barrow Down | Dorset | Poole, Purbeck & Wimborne SSDAB added - separate aerial | SZ009811 |
| Canford Heath | Dorset | Band II aerial added for Hot 102.8 | SZ036939 |
| Hull Royal Infirmary | East Riding of Yorkshire | DAB added | TA084287 |
| Withernsea | East Riding of Yorkshire | Now transmitting with mixed polarisation | TA342280 |
| Bedford (Murdock Road) | Bedfordshire | Local DAB added | TL044517 |
| St. Albans VHF (St Peters Church) | Hertfordshire | South Hertfordshire DAB added | TL150076 |
| Cambridge (Hills Road) | Detail of Band II tx aerial needed. | TL455577 | |
| Gog Magog | Cambridgeshire | DAB Minimux added Sep 2015 | TL491533 |
| Watford YMCA | South Hertfordshire DAB added | TQ110965 | |
| Southend University Hospital | DAB added | TQ865873 | |
| Les Touillets | Guernsey | Replacement of UHF tx aerial for B700, tower strengthening works, Sep/Oct 2018. | XD581509 |
| Fort Albert | Alderney | Local DAB added December 2021 | XD868805 |
Sites remaining: 107
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Hit List by Robert Whittaker, Computer Solutions
Update List by Martin Watkins
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